{"id":1612,"date":"2008-06-21T11:02:00","date_gmt":"2008-06-21T09:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/?p=1612"},"modified":"2023-04-02T13:27:58","modified_gmt":"2023-04-02T11:27:58","slug":"retire-retirement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/sciencesurf\/2008\/06\/retire-retirement\/","title":{"rendered":"Retire retirement"},"content":{"rendered":"

May 29, 2008 Nature <\/a> has an interesting commentary by Peter Lawrence (66) about the archaic practice of retirement of active scientists at a determined age. It is a quite luxurious habit of “Doing what I like” while having a mostly pleasant life here on earth as a scientist, it may be a quite logical to prolong the scientific career.<\/p>\n

Of course it may be also a true value also for a society to have an ingenious spirit also for another decade at work. Brenner is being cited as<\/p>\n

I know many 35 year olds who should be retired and some 70-year olds who are the best post-doc you can ever find.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So it may be harsh reality (and even quite good) that the career of most scientists ends at a certain age. There is a saying here that “wrong ideas only die with their proponents”.\u00a0 Any suggested “eternal tenure” will prohibit science progress.\u00a0 So\u00a0 I\u00a0 agree that<\/p>\n

every institution ought to evaluate each elderly person and provide them with the means of continuing their work if they remain productive.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Certainly, I would only accept applications from people that are doing active work – first author papers beyond presidential addresses. Maybe fingerprints on pipettes in the lab or harddisk activities beyond powerpoint.<\/p>\n

For all other ordinary people, there is still be an universe of of important things even outside of a formal profession. The problem at least here in Germany is not so much retirement at 65 but the nearly absent possibility to change any university affiliation at about 50 years…<\/p>\n\n

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May 29, 2008 Nature has an interesting commentary by Peter Lawrence (66) about the archaic practice of retirement of active scientists at a determined age. It is a quite luxurious habit of “Doing what I like” while having a mostly pleasant life here on earth as a scientist, it may be a quite logical to … Continue reading Retire retirement<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[1937,1933,1935,1936,1934,1932,1938,1931],"class_list":["post-1612","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy-of-science","tag-affirmation","tag-author-papers","tag-brenner","tag-important-things","tag-presidential-addresses","tag-science-progress","tag-tenure","tag-university-affiliation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1612","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1612"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1612\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21981,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1612\/revisions\/21981"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1612"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1612"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1612"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}