{"id":1710,"date":"2008-09-18T14:15:29","date_gmt":"2008-09-18T12:15:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/?p=1710"},"modified":"2020-01-10T08:10:21","modified_gmt":"2020-01-10T08:10:21","slug":"godels-proof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/sciencesurf\/2008\/09\/godels-proof\/","title":{"rendered":"G\u00f6del&#8217;s proof"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A recent opinion article (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nature.com\/nature\/journal\/v454\/n7206\/full\/454829a.html\">Nature, Aug 14<\/a>) has an interesting retrospective look on <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems\">G\u00f6del&#8217;s proof<\/a>, the 1958 secondhand description of G\u00f6del&#8217;s 1931 finding that rules of logic for quoting axioms eg. substituting variables and formulating deductions are themselves mathematical operations &#8211; pretty much the same of todays object oriented programming<!--more--> where an object (as set of operations) is applied to another object eventually generating a new object. But what&#8217;s about his<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>astonishing discovery of true mathematical statements that could not possibly have a formal proof<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Working currently on an analysis where there is basically not available model, no empirical expert knowledge on thresholds etc with extremely rare data, G\u00f6del&#8217;s proof is a most painful insight.<br \/>\nThere is also another aspect that came to my mind when reading the Nature essay. The author cites &#8220;How to solve it&#8221; without giving a reference to the classical text of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/George_P%C3%B3lya\">George Polya<\/a> (1945) known for<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To be a good mathematician, or a good gambler, or good at anything, you must be a good guesser.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I have the 1988 edition on my book shelf. &#8220;How to solve it&#8221; is a much less theoretical than practical account that lays out an heuristical approach to solve mathematical and other problems<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is hard to have a good idea if we have little knowledge of the subject and impossible to have it if we have no knowledge.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yea, yea.<\/p>\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"bottom-note\">\n  <span class=\"mod1\">CC-BY-NC Science Surf , accessed 11.04.2026<\/span>\n <\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A recent opinion article (Nature, Aug 14) has an interesting retrospective look on G\u00f6del&#8217;s proof, the 1958 secondhand description of G\u00f6del&#8217;s 1931 finding that rules of logic for quoting axioms eg. substituting variables and formulating deductions are themselves mathematical operations &#8211; pretty much the same of todays object oriented programming &nbsp; CC-BY-NC Science Surf , &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/sciencesurf\/2008\/09\/godels-proof\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">G\u00f6del&#8217;s proof<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[2059,2053,2052,2057,2056,2058,2054,2055],"class_list":["post-1710","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy-of-science","tag-expert-knowledge","tag-formal-proof","tag-george-polya","tag-insight","tag-mathematical-statements","tag-mathematician","tag-nature-essay","tag-object-oriented-programming"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1710","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1710"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1710\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15098,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1710\/revisions\/15098"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1710"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1710"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1710"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}