{"id":24823,"date":"2025-03-13T14:03:48","date_gmt":"2025-03-13T12:03:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/?p=24823"},"modified":"2025-03-19T03:10:33","modified_gmt":"2025-03-19T01:10:33","slug":"the-great-consciousness-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/sciencesurf\/2025\/03\/the-great-consciousness-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"The great consciousness debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/nicolecrust.bsky.social\/post\/3lk2ig5ysrk2p\">most recent discussion<\/a> abut consciousness was going in circles, having now a dozen of competing theories as summarized \u00a0by chatGPT and reworked by me for omissions. Not sure if all the summaries and references are good, but maybe this is a good starting point to understand the background of \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41593-025-01881-x\">a new paper<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<ol>\n<li>1. Global Workspace Theory (GWT) proposed by Bernard Baars.<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that consciousness arises when information is &#8220;broadcast&#8221; to a global workspace in the brain, allowing different cognitive processes to access and use it.<br \/>\n&#8211; Compares the brain to a theater, where only information in the spotlight of attention becomes conscious.<br \/>\n&#8211; Baars, B. J. (1988). <em data-start=\"196\" data-end=\"233\">A Cognitive Theory of Consciousness<\/em>. Cambridge University Press.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0Integrated Information Theory (IIT) developed by Giulio Tononi.<br \/>\n&#8211; Proposes that consciousness is linked to the amount of integrated information (\u03a6) in a system.<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that the more a system is capable of integrating information across different parts, the more conscious it is.<br \/>\n&#8211; Tononi, G. (2004). <em data-start=\"339\" data-end=\"391\">An information integration theory of consciousness<\/em>. BMC Neuroscience, 5(1), 42.<\/li>\n<li>Higher-Order Theories (HOT)**<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that consciousness arises from thoughts about thoughts.<br \/>\n&#8211; A mental state becomes conscious when there is a higher-order representation of that state in the brain.<br \/>\n&#8211; Championed by researchers like David Rosenthal and Hakwan Lau.<br \/>\n&#8211; Rosenthal, D. M. (2005). <em data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"519\">Consciousness and Mind<\/em>. Oxford University Press.<\/li>\n<li>Attention Schema Theory (AST) proposed by Michael Graziano.<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that the brain creates a simplified model (a schema) of its own attention processes, which gives rise to subjective awareness.<br \/>\n&#8211; Consciousness is a type of self-monitoring mechanism.<br \/>\n&#8211; Graziano, M. S. A. (2013). <em data-start=\"624\" data-end=\"660\">Consciousness and the Social Brain<\/em>. Oxford University Press.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0Predictive Processing &amp; Bayesian Brain Theories<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that the brain is constantly generating predictions about sensory input and updating them based on new information.<br \/>\n&#8211; Consciousness arises from how well the brain models the world and resolves prediction errors.<br \/>\n&#8211; Friston, K. (2010). <em data-start=\"776\" data-end=\"828\">The free-energy principle: a unified brain theory?<\/em> Nature Reviews Neuroscience, 11(2), 127-138.<\/li>\n<li>Quantum Theories of Consciousness like Penrose &amp; Hameroff\u2019s Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch-OR) &#8211; suggest that consciousness arises from quantum processes in microtubules in brain neurons.<br \/>\n&#8211; Highly controversial, as many neuroscientists doubt quantum effects play a significant role in brain function.<br \/>\n&#8211; Penrose, R. (1989). <em data-start=\"959\" data-end=\"1037\">The Emperor\u2019s New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds, and the Laws of Physics<\/em>. Oxford University Press.<\/li>\n<li>Panpsychism<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that consciousness is a fundamental feature of the universe, present in all matter at some level.<br \/>\n&#8211; Variants include **Integrated Information Panpsychism** (which aligns with IIT) and **Cosmopsychism** (which suggests the universe itself is conscious).<br \/>\n&#8211; Philosophers like Philip Goff and Galen Strawson support versions of this idea.<br \/>\n&#8211; Strawson, G. (2006). <em data-start=\"1118\" data-end=\"1173\">Realistic monism: Why physicalism entails panpsychism<\/em>. Journal of Consciousness Studies, 13(10-11), 3-31.<\/li>\n<li>Enactive and Embodied Theories<br \/>\n&#8211; Consciousness is seen as emerging from the interaction between the brain, body, and environment.<br \/>\n&#8211; Rather than being purely brain-based, it depends on active engagement with the world.<br \/>\n&#8211; Varela, Thompson, and No\u00eb have been key contributors.<br \/>\n&#8211; Varela, F. J., Thompson, E., &amp; Rosch, E. (1991). <em data-start=\"1327\" data-end=\"1386\">The Embodied Mind: Cognitive Science and Human Experience<\/em>. MIT Press.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0Recurrent Processing Theory (RPT) proposed by Victor Lamme.<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that consciousness arises from recurrent (looping) activity in cortical networks.<br \/>\n&#8211; When neural activity is only feedforward, it remains unconscious.<br \/>\n&#8211; Lamme, V. A. F. (2006). <em data-start=\"1478\" data-end=\"1525\">Towards a true neural stance on consciousness<\/em>. Trends in Cognitive Sciences, 10(11), 494-501.<\/li>\n<li>Interactionist Dualism Theory (IDT) proposed by Eccles and Popper<br \/>\n&#8211; consciousness has a non-physical reality that interacts with the brain.<br \/>\n&#8211; influences the brain by intervening at specific synapses<br \/>\n&#8211; unlike materialist views, this theory suggests that the mind and brain are distinct but interact causally.<br \/>\n&#8211; criticized for lacking a clear mechanism for how a non-physical mind could affect a physical brain.<br \/>\n&#8211; Popper, K. R., &amp; Eccles, J. C. (1977). <em data-start=\"1665\" data-end=\"1689\">The Self and Its Brain<\/em>. Springer.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0Recurrent Processing Theory (RPT) proposed by Victor Lamme.<br \/>\n&#8211; Suggests that consciousness arises from recurrent (looping) activity in cortical networks.<br \/>\n&#8211; When neural activity is only feedforward, it remains unconscious.<\/li>\n<li>Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch-OR) proposed by Penrose and Hameroff<br \/>\n&#8211; suggests that consciousness arises from quantum processes within microtubules in brain neurons.<br \/>\n&#8211; claims that quantum coherence and reduction of wavefunctions within microtubules play a fundamental role in conscious experience.<br \/>\n&#8211; highly controversial<br \/>\n&#8211; Hameroff, S., &amp; Penrose, R. (1996). <em data-start=\"1802\" data-end=\"1896\">Orchestrated reduction of quantum coherence in brain microtubules: A model for consciousness<\/em>. Mathematics and Computers in Simulation, 40(3-4), 453-480.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>No single theory is universally accepted. Some researchers believe that an integrated approach combining multiple theories may be necessary to fully explain consciousness. I am still intrigued by John <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Das-sein-Gehirn-Karl-Popper\/dp\/3492210961\">John Eccles and Karl Popper<\/a> book that I read in 1989 which may still be valid although containing &#8220;unscientific&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Metaphysics\">metaphysical elements<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A new paper now just identifies the\u00a0 unscientific elements in he <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1038\/s41593-025-01881-x\">IIT \/ integrated information theory<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\">One well-known proposal \u2014 integrated information theory \u2014 has recently been labeled as \u2018pseudoscience\u2019,\u00a0 which has caused a heated open debate.\u00a0Here we discuss the case and argue that the theory is indeed unscientific because its core claims are untestable even in principle.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>While I agree that IIT is not scientific for\u00a0limited empiri<span class=\"s1\">cal support, I have doubts if this is a sufficient cause to deny the validity of the argument.\u00a0 Also metapyhsically <\/span><i>\u00a0a priori<\/i> methods are justifed even if the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Metaphysics\">rely<\/a> only &#8220;on rational intuition and abstract reasoning from general principles rather than sensory experience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Independent of that, I am sharing the concerns of the authors if some untested theories like IIT is leading to serious consequences<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\">By promoting to the gen<span class=\"s1\">eral public the untestable idea that \u2018\u03a6 = consciousness\u2019, proponents of\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"s1\">IIT may ultimately have an unjustified effect on law and policy, includ<\/span><span class=\"s1\">ing on decisions that involve measures of quality of life, clinical triage,\u00a0<\/span>abortion, the rights of non-responsive patients, and welfare consid<span class=\"s2\">erations for insects (?), organoids and artificial intelligences.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"bottom-note\">\n  <span class=\"mod1\">CC-BY-NC Science Surf , accessed 08.04.2026<\/span>\n <\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The most recent discussion abut consciousness was going in circles, having now a dozen of competing theories as summarized \u00a0by chatGPT and reworked by me for omissions. Not sure if all the summaries and references are good, but maybe this is a good starting point to understand the background of \u00a0a new paper. &nbsp; CC-BY-NC &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/sciencesurf\/2025\/03\/the-great-consciousness-debate\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The great consciousness debate<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24823","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-note-worthy","category-philosophy-of-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24823","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24823"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24823\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24892,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24823\/revisions\/24892"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24823"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24823"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wjst.de\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24823"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}